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Contents

  • Maps
    • Ferelden
      • Map of Ferelden
    • Dwarf Commoner
      • Dust Town
      • Commons
      • Tapster's Tavern
      • Beraht's Shop
      • Proving Grounds (Dwarf Commoner)
      • Beraht's Hide
    • Dwarf Noble
      • Ozammer Royal Palace
      • Diamond Quarter
      • Proving Grounds (Dwarf Noble)
      • Ruined Thaig
      • Outskirts
    • City Elf
      • Alienage
      • Arl of Denerim's Estate (Exterior)
      • Arl of Denerim's Estate (Interior)
    • Dalish Elf
      • Forest Clearing
      • Elven Ruins
      • Dalish Elf Camp
      • Return to Forest Clearing
      • Return to the Elven Ruins
      • Return to Dalish Elf Camp
    • Human Mage Origin
      • The Harrowing
      • The Circle Tower (Human Mage Origin)
      • The Repository
    • Human Noble Origin
      • Castle Cousland By Day
      • Castle Cousland (Night)
    • Ostagar
      • King's Camp
      • Korcari Wilds
      • Return to King's Camp
      • The Tower of Ishal
    • Lothering
      • Lothering
      • Lothering Chantry
      • Dane's Refuge
  • Essentials
    • Basics
      • Key Terms
      • Experience and Leveling
      • Your Health
      • Race
      • Class
      • Skills, Talents, and Specializations
      • Items
      • Combat
      • The Map
      • The Codex
      • Making choices
    • Character Generation
      • Gender and Race
      • Class
      • Specializations
      • Appearance and Voice
      • Attributes
      • Origin Stories
    • The Classes
      • Levelling
      • Skills
      • The Warrior: Strengths
      • The Warrior: Attributes
      • The Warrior: Skills & Talents
      • The Warrior: Weapons
      • The Warrior: Talent Tables
      • The Warrior: Specializations
      • The Warrior: Character Builds
      • The Mage: Strengths
      • The Mage: Attributes
      • The Mage: Skills & Spells
      • The Mage: Schools & Gear
      • The Mage: Talent Tables
      • The Mage: Specializations
      • The Mage: Character Builds
      • The Rogue: Strengths
      • The Rogue: Attributes
      • The Rogue: Skills & Talents
      • The Rogue: Schools & Gear
      • The Rogue: Talent Tables
      • The Rogue: Specializations
      • The Rogue: Character Builds
    • The Party
      • Buddy Basics
      • Group Dynamics
      • Dealing with Threat
      • Healing
      • Combat Roles
      • Configurations and Engagement
      • Tactics
    • Companions
      • Understanding Companions
      • Alistair
      • Leliana
      • Morrigan
      • Oghren
      • Shale (DLC Only)
      • Wynne
      • Zevran
      • Dog
      • Loghain Mac Tir
      • Sten
    • Supporting Cast
      • NPCs
    • Traveler's Guide
      • Thedas
      • History
      • Ferelden Society
      • Life In Fereldan
      • Fereldan Timeline
      • People of Ferelden
      • Elsewhere
        • Geography
    • Equipment
      • Equipment Basics
      • Vendor Shopping
      • Weapons
      • Armor
      • Accessories
      • Rune Enchanting
      • Crafting
      • Usable Items
      • Gifts
      • Downloadable Content Items
    • Races
      • Elves
    • The Bestiary
      • The Monster Manual
    • Encounters
      • World Encounters
      • Plot Encounters
      • Random Encounters
  • Walkthrough
    • Walkthrough
      • Tour of Ferelden
      • Essential Locations
      • Dwarf Commoner Origin
      • Dwarf Noble Origin
      • City Elf Origin
      • Dalish Elf Origin
      • Mage Origin
      • Human Noble Origin
      • Ostagar
      • Lothering
      • Broken Circle
      • Arl of Redcliffe
      • Urn of Sacred Ashes
      • Paragon of Her Kind
      • Nature of the Beast
      • The Landsmeet
      • The Final Onslaught
      • Warden's Keep (DLC Only)
      • The Stone Prisoner (DLC only)
    • Side Quests
      • Blackstone Irregulars
      • Brecilian Forest
      • Chanter's Board
      • The Circle of Magi
      • Denerim
      • Favors for Certain Interested Parties
      • Korcari Wilds
      • The Mages' Collective
      • Orzammar
      • Ostagar
      • Party Camp
      • Redcliffe
      • Warden's Keep (DLC Only)
      • Wide Open World
    • Achievements and Trophies
      • PC Achievements
      • Console Achievements
  • DLC
    • Companions
      • Shale
    • Warden's Keep
      • Walkthrough
    • The Stone Prisoner
      • Walkthrough

Dragon Age: Origins Guide › Essentials › The Classes

The Rogue: Skills & Talents

Skills

All rogues need to pick up Combat Training as soon as they can. Combat Training opens up the higher tier weapon talents, which you can't live without.

Spend your first skill point here to vault up to at least Improved Combat Training. You need to reach Expert Combat Training by level 6 and Expert Combat Training by level 9 if you want to focus on combat talents.

Poison-Making can help improve your damage totals, so it's probably the second best rogue skill.

Buy beyond the first rank to access stronger poisons and different special effects. You could also go the Trap-Making route and branch out a little more into AoE damage.

If you want more options during dialogue, especially to sway people's opinions or avoid certain fights, invest in Coercion.

It's an incredibly useful skill in dialogue; it gives you story options that you won't get otherwise. Cunning opens up the Coercion skills, which fits in with many rogue talents.

Don't forget about Stealing. It focuses on a high cunning score, something rogues should have. Use the Stealing skill to grab gear not normally dropped by foes.

Tip

Beyond your starting skills, you're likely to obtain 8–10 skill points throughout the game. Pick your two or three favorite skills and stick with them. If you spread your points too thin, you'll end up doing a bunch of things—but not well.

Rogue Skill Recommendations

Assuming you spend at least 10 skill points by career's end, here's a good spread to consider. Note that many other combinations could work better for you, so experiment!

  • Combat Training +4
  • Poison-Making +4
  • Coercion +1
  • Stealing +1

If you aren't directly playing your rogue companions and want one of them to run around independently, invest in Combat Tactics for extra tactics slots.

The more tactic slots you open, the more you can shape how your companion behaves in battle. Inevitably, even if you plan on controlling your rogue during fights, there will be moments when you don't program your rogue's every move (or something more important is going on) and tactics come into play.

One or two points should be good, or max it out if you want the character to go on autopilot.

Talents

Rogues have many areas to spend their points, but not enough points to develop them all (never mind the specializations). So what do you choose?

Rogue-specific active and passive talents? Lockpicking and disarming traps? Stealth? The Dual Weapon talent school? The Archer talent school? A specialization or two?

If you decide to let your focus slide on the weapon talent chains, you can still use dual weapons and bows, but you won't be nearly as efficient at it. You will be a master at stealth, lockpicking and disarming traps, and your other rogue-specific talents.

In addition, you can spend fewer of your skill points on Combat Training and more on Poison-Making, Herbalism, Survival, Coercion, and Stealing. If you choose to focus on one of the weapon talent chains, some of your rogue-specific talents will suffer.

So what kind of rogue do you want to be? Does passing up locked treasure and rooms drive you nuts? Do you love being able to stealth through places and situations?

Would you prefer to have a deadly combat rogue? Whatever you choose, make sure it complements the rest of your party. For example, a rogue who is adept in lockpicking, stealth, and rogue-specific talents should be paired with a solid melee rogue or warrior (someone who can take the threat and deal the damage).

It also wouldn't hurt to have a good ranged attacker in this party too. You won't be the best one-on-one melee opponent, but you'll be able to:

  • Drop your threat
  • Evade many incoming attacks
  • Stun opponents
  • Move deftly in combat
  • Gain bonuses to critical chance on all attacks
  • Backstab stunned and paralyzed foes
  • Deliver penalties to your foes' armor, movement speed, and defense

It's not the most sportsmanlike character, but you'll have a solid advantage in many situations. In addition to your below-the-belt style of dealing with things, you can steal, sneak, and pick your way into many interesting places and treasure chests.

Note

It's possible to have three rogues in the game: Leliana, Zevran, and you. Develop each differently to have access to a wider talent arsenal.

All rogues should familiarize themselves with the cooldown component of each talent. The worst situation is to have plenty of stamina and no available talents to use. Branch out into different chains to avoid the cooldown problem.

Your talents drain stamina from your pool. Watch how much stamina you're using in a fight and act accordingly.

If you run short without a mage's Restoration spell to replenish you, it could cost your party a victory. Gauge what you have to do to help the team.

There's little sense running off a series of moves that drains three quarters of your stamina on the first opponent when there are three more to go.

Save your stamina. You never know when the next fight will start, or how long the current fight will go if you have unexpected ambushers, and you'll be grateful you didn't waste stamina.

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